Tuesday, December 14, 2010


Most of you know that I do not participate in politics. I do not vote or salute the flag or anything connected with nationalism. But some believers who love Jesus still do. I do not judge them since I was once with them.

To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men. For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.

But to campaign against providing healthcare for those without it, and your reason is that your premiums will increase, is sin.


Anonymous said...

Amen. It is so true that any child of God who's been forgiven and loved, and cleansed would deny health services for others, is very very sad.

Those with pre-existing conditions who struggle would find it hard to believe that those in Christ don't want to share the load. The very people who say they represent the Great Healer would deny others of relief from their sicknesses? Or prevent them from affording treatments and surgeries and medications that can ease their walk in this world is incomprehensible.

What bewitching has taken over the minds of the saints? Has a strong delusion already been sent?

Anonymous said...

Another amen to this post. And in response to the other anonymous comment: If the delusion has not already been sent, I think we have indeed been watching it take shape right in front of us for some time now; I pray earnestly that those who will, receive the preventing love of the Truth.

Anonymous said...

The Health Care thing is more complicated than that. We may find that more people are denied coverage now.
My family is on a state-run healthcare plan that we get for free and I appreciate it so much! If it could be run efficiently and fairly - then yes, we should have "Health Care". I wish everyone could have the benefits that my family has!
But I'm thinking there is more to this Health Care bill than meets the eye. Or...maybe the fear-mongers have influenced me.
I pray that God's will be done in all of it however it turns out.

MKC said...

I am 54 years old, and most of my adult life, I and my family have been without health care, or should I say "medical insurance". I and my wife and sons have been truly blessed in that we have had a healthy life, in that I mean God has provided us with good health. I do not think it is the job of government to decide that I or anyone else deserve anything that that is born from the blood, sweat, tears or toil from another man. To say that I or anyone else deserves anything that belongs to anyone else is sin. "Thou shoult not covet..." Is it the purpose of government to take the place of individual responsibility? Is it not the place of the Church to provide for the Church first, to minister to the needs of fellow believers first? Jesus was approached by a woman seeking healing for someone not of the Jewish lineage. His response was kind of harsh, but the reply from the woman in question so amazed Him that He granted her request. "even the little dogs get the scraps that fall from the masters table." I have witnessed the hording not only of individuals, but of the Church. The apostle Paul instructed that "we" believers should set aside as God has prospered us, so there should be no one one in need. Should not the Church seek out those with in the Body of Christ, and see to their individual needs? Can the hand say to the foot, I do not need you? The body has many members. If a person in the body is a little toe, and the body stumped that little toe, would not the body minister to that little toe? If you who are evil know how to give good things to your children, how much more will your Heavenly Father give good things to those who ask Him? Government should not take on the role of forced charity at the expense of robbing Peter to pay Paul... Give and it will be given. If, there were agreement among the citizens to pool a portion of the resources of all fore the benefit of health care, then there could be unity for that purpose. That unity of purpose should exist with in the Body of Christ, for the Body of Christ. Remember the story of the "Good Samaritan?"

Rick Frueh said...

I agree, except we believers should have no opinion as to what the government does. The church is so compromised financially it has no room to fully minister to each other.

Steve said...

I'll add an "Amen" to your original post.

Agreed that the Church' mandate from God is to care for its own; and not ONLY its own. But human government too is instituted by God, with a mandate to be "a minister of God to you for good." (Romans 3)

We're to feed the hungry and care for the sick. If human government helps feed the hungry and helps care for the sick, isn't it acting on its Godly mandate ? Do we begrudge the good government does ?

In Jesus, Steve

Anonymous said...

All very good points. But there is more to this "Healthcare" than providing for those who don't have.

I belong to the working poor. I can't afford insurance, but does it provide me what I can't afford? No, it forces me to buy a product I can't afford. If I don't buy the product I'm fined, also an expense I can't afford. Also, I don't want the government to give me anything. I trust God for all things, not the government.

It's a complicated issue.

Rick Frueh said...

There are a number of things about which the government legally requires us to purchase. Car insurance, homeowner's insurance, social security, and some others. Even taxes in general are a government mandate. The government has the God given right to do such things, which does not make them right.

But for believers to complain about anything is unseemly, and when we publicly complain about providing health care for the poor we do a disservice to the cause of Christ. Even if that could be considered "persecution" we still must take it without complaining or murmering.