tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post917816295037624035..comments2023-10-21T04:32:31.262-05:00Comments on Following Judah's Lion: Rick Fruehhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-17117916512315491242012-05-06T06:04:54.402-05:002012-05-06T06:04:54.402-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-73345151727786119622010-03-28T07:29:44.056-05:002010-03-28T07:29:44.056-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-68712368015158312972010-03-22T19:47:19.094-05:002010-03-22T19:47:19.094-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-52323167919198770292010-03-17T20:19:23.122-05:002010-03-17T20:19:23.122-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-57040325475580485012010-03-13T16:08:48.768-05:002010-03-13T16:08:48.768-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-53262250890861434162009-12-15T01:31:30.986-05:002009-12-15T01:31:30.986-05:00You made your point well. Excellent post!You made your point well. Excellent post!Servant2112https://www.blogger.com/profile/08423864038669639137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-19743256895940353822009-12-02T17:28:19.576-05:002009-12-02T17:28:19.576-05:00Rick,
Be careful, the use of the word "corps...Rick,<br /><br />Be careful, the use of the word "corpse" is compromising your Arminian credentials! :)Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16345630463450652762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-21275049666507335192009-12-02T17:04:19.309-05:002009-12-02T17:04:19.309-05:00I see all believers as part of the body. You are c...I see all believers as part of the body. You are correct, some are the tongue and some are the hands. But all of us work toward redemption.<br /><br />If you believe that Jesus Christ and His finished work on the cross is the exclusive way to eternal life, and that only through faith can we be saved, then you are part of the body. A church deacon who vaccuums the worship center is aiding the overall gospel ministry of his church. I do not discount the gift of helps etc., I admire humble servants.<br /><br />The original point was the uselessness of attempting to change sinners, especially governments, from the outside. I do appreciate your commenting here and I hope you fell welcome.Rick Fruehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-44167293790493205152009-12-02T15:46:48.010-05:002009-12-02T15:46:48.010-05:00Mr. Frueh - You're a preacher and, from what I...Mr. Frueh - You're a preacher and, from what I've read of your blog, a talented and powerful writer. You have those gifts for proclaiming Christ; you can "hold the paddles" to return to your analogy. Not me. Face-to-face, I get tongue-tied; in writing I am (as I've already shown) rather polemic. My gifts, my means of proclaiming the Gospel lie elsewhere. Not in words, but in quiet actions the most of which probably never get noticed. What place do you see for those of us more suited to repairing "broken feet" than torn aortas?Peggy Hagenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12848658078823644791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-42891703101010538432009-12-02T15:33:48.779-05:002009-12-02T15:33:48.779-05:00True or not, that doesn't disprove my point.True or not, that doesn't disprove my point.Peggy Hagenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12848658078823644791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-63622559908491812922009-12-02T09:50:23.491-05:002009-12-02T09:50:23.491-05:00"They aren't; they're doing it to kee..."They aren't; they're doing it to keep our culture as Christian as possible; as receptive to Christ as possible."<br /><br />This culture has never been Christian.Rick Fruehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-34265245032764672382009-12-02T08:51:19.960-05:002009-12-02T08:51:19.960-05:00"...certain people think feeding and caring f..."...certain people think feeding and caring for the physical needs of the poor automatically dilutes the Gospel."<br /><br />Anon, I'm honestly astonished that there are Christians who think that. It's simply not a question in the Catholic Church and my knowledge of the Protestant/evangelical world is limited. If you do not mind my asking, who are the "certain people" - hopefully nobody in a postion of influence?Peggy Hagenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12848658078823644791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-35986379870985664022009-12-02T08:37:09.487-05:002009-12-02T08:37:09.487-05:00I would say that those 'other causes' are ...I would say that those 'other causes' are subordinate to and in the service of the Gospel. <br /><br />There are three major problems I see with your analogy: <br /><br />First, the assumption that non-Christians are spiritually and intellectually passive. That's not the case; they are quite capable of reading and understanding the Manhattan Declaration and, possibly, of being intrigued and wanting to know more. That more is Christ - the Declaration is not an end in itself.<br /><br />Second, that the signers of the Declaration are doing something about "the odor" out of self-interest. They aren't; they're doing it to keep our culture as Christian as possible; as receptive to Christ as possible. You can't plow soil that's never seen water or fertilizer and you certainly can't sow in it. There doing the evidently thankless work of keeping the soil in condition for you and others to come along and do the planting.<br /><br />Third, that it's useless to aid a non-Christian at all unless God can use that assistance to bring that person to Christ. A couple of things here. One, that God most emphatically can do so if He wishes. But that's not for you to say or care about - your charge is to help that person for the sake of helping that person. If you see a brother in need and you say to him, 'Good night! Keep warm and well fed,' what good is that? If you're uncomfortable with James, Matthew 26 also has a few strong things to say on the subject.<br /><br />Oh, and there's a fourth problem. I'm Catholic.Peggy Hagenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12848658078823644791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-26638975378809555242009-12-01T03:19:21.173-05:002009-12-01T03:19:21.173-05:00I agree, namely because of the prominent role memb...I agree, namely because of the prominent role members of the Catholic Church are playing in such endeavors...yet again though, there runs the risk of going the other extreme, the same way certain people think feeding and caring for the physical needs of the poor automatically dilutes the Gospel. <br /><br />I think with issues such as abortion at stake--where innocent lives are being lost everyday, some matters of temporal concern are worth our attention and energies even if it means allying with others of different faiths--so long as these endeavors focusing on cultural renewal don't replace our ultimate committment and devotion to Christ and the Gospel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-86622291908244612052009-11-30T12:55:24.746-05:002009-11-30T12:55:24.746-05:00Kay Arthur is a great Bible teacher. I just believ...Kay Arthur is a great Bible teacher. I just believe she is wrong for signing this document.Rick Fruehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-40049334044326623902009-11-30T11:57:46.623-05:002009-11-30T11:57:46.623-05:00Since Kay Arthur signed this thing does that mean ...Since Kay Arthur signed this thing does that mean I shouldn't be doing Precept studies anymore?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-34354234743515419752009-11-30T08:20:24.009-05:002009-11-30T08:20:24.009-05:00We have only one cause, the gospel of Jesus Christ...We have only one cause, the gospel of Jesus Christ. Other causes are distractions and mirages and unequal alliances dilute us and the gospel.<br /><br />When a man is rushed into the emergency room with a torn aorta and a broken foot, the doctors do not take time to set the foot until the aorta has been repaired. The "battle" is singular and eternal. <br /><br />Repairing a foot on a corpse is futile unless God can use your compassion to open his heart to the gospel. We should not join with any who do not serve Christ and His gospel lest a false god gains the glory in the eyes of some.Rick Fruehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-33758865415103838822009-11-30T00:02:31.559-05:002009-11-30T00:02:31.559-05:00That's what allies are. People with whom you c...That's what allies are. People with whom you can make common cause, with whom you can work towards a goal, but who may be acting for different reasons than you. You generally find a few of them in any battle, and are we as Christians not engaged in a battle? If everything good is from Christ, and "those people over there" are speaking for the good, why not work with them so far as is possible? Jesus had no trouble commending faith whether He found it in an Israelite, a heretic Samaritan, or a pagan Canaanite. Are we to do otherwise?<br /><br />This is scattered; it's late. But I hope my point was understanable.Peggy Hagenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12848658078823644791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-56049898442918198072009-11-29T17:13:43.126-05:002009-11-29T17:13:43.126-05:00Excellent parable!Excellent parable!J. L. Wattshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01000798494472742263noreply@blogger.com