tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post3955342970487158547..comments2023-10-21T04:32:31.262-05:00Comments on Following Judah's Lion: Rick Fruehhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-35245255921480186172012-01-30T19:40:04.854-05:002012-01-30T19:40:04.854-05:00By heretic I should've said apostate or unrege...By heretic I should've said apostate or unregenerate. I meant by heretic in regards to deviate so far that he knows some other Jesus.Calhttp://leadme.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-92083808918446371982012-01-30T19:38:33.640-05:002012-01-30T19:38:33.640-05:00Rick:
I read your article and I would definitely ...Rick:<br /><br />I read your article and I would definitely turn someone to that on understanding the "Wind"!<br /><br />I know Bell is heterdox on many things and rebuke is necessary, but I'm not willing to say he's an out-and-out heretic. Like you said, every teacher must be checked against the Commands of King Jesus.<br /><br />I don't think Bell is ever advocating Universalism. He flirts a bit with universal-salvation, but in the sense of a hope. Not necessarily bad, we ought to hope all are saved as according to God's will that all are saved and come to a knowledge of the Truth.<br /><br />He definitely is treading universalistic pluralism with his inclusivism and that just encourages people to put off interacting with the very direct Command of Jesus. On this, I agree it is dangerous.<br /><br />However, I'm always a little sympathetic to the feeling of inclusivism even if I reject their premises. Who knows what happens in the last moments of life, what occurs inside a man. Supposedly my grandfather, a secular man all his life, after a going in and out of a coma, was approached by 3 men who all told him to come home. I don't know what it means, but I can hope.<br /><br />CalCalhttp://leadme.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-25578844405442896592012-01-30T18:44:21.802-05:002012-01-30T18:44:21.802-05:00Here is a post about the Blasphemy of the Holy Spi...Here is a post about the Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit preached at Rob Bell's church.<br /><br />http://judahslion.blogspot.com/2009/10/blasphemy-of-holy-spirit-jn.htmlRick Fruehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-21574316583931309782012-01-30T18:29:45.664-05:002012-01-30T18:29:45.664-05:00"If you are confused I suggest you take one w..."If you are confused I suggest you take one week and read the New Testament through from Matthew to Revelation."<br />Amen! There are so many people saying so many things, and this is what it all comes back to. You have to KNOW the Bible before you listen to the rest, because otherwise there is no way to know who is right and who is wrong. I found this out the hard way! - RobinRobinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16790268214042052098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-46665838328334356482012-01-30T18:19:23.591-05:002012-01-30T18:19:23.591-05:00I have read several of his books and listened to s...I have read several of his books and listened to some of his teachings. He has had Brian McLaren, Doug pagitt, and peter Rollins preach and teach in his pulpit. And he hired a quaker who teaches that all religions have a part of Jesus and every sinner has a spiritual sail. (Quaker theology)<br /><br />That Quaker is now the pastor at Mars Hill. Bell is an unambiguous heretic who does not believe the Bible is literal. And his latest book espouses universalism to which John Piper said, "Good bye Rob Bell".Rick Fruehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-23666358499296902842012-01-30T17:39:45.585-05:002012-01-30T17:39:45.585-05:00I'm ambivalent on Bell.
I think that he is tr...I'm ambivalent on Bell.<br /><br />I think that he is trying to open doors in the wrong way to rethinking what Americans perceive as the Church. I watched some of the Nooma and didn't find them bad (though muddled at times and factually erroneous at times). I don't think he necessarily deserves the same harsh words as Warren, Copeland or Osteen.<br /><br />However, I don't recommend turning to his books as a guide. In fact we have so many books out by too many evangelicals on points that are unnecessary. I think he's participating in the cult of personality that evangelicalism has come to in this country. It is quite disturbing.<br /><br />But at the end of day, I still count Bell a brother (wayward as he may be).<br /><br />My 2,<br />CalCalhttp://leadme.orgnoreply@blogger.com