tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post1592079146998295419..comments2023-10-21T04:32:31.262-05:00Comments on Following Judah's Lion: Bible StudyRick Fruehhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-25956519164193228292013-01-28T11:59:24.710-05:002013-01-28T11:59:24.710-05:00The comment section for this post is closed.The comment section for this post is closed.Rick Fruehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-39334938868362906662013-01-28T11:30:57.369-05:002013-01-28T11:30:57.369-05:00Yes agree with you Robert and yes, be careful as y...Yes agree with you Robert and yes, be careful as you run and do not exceed the speed limit.kellinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-87729224044611655372013-01-28T11:11:50.987-05:002013-01-28T11:11:50.987-05:00That is rightly dividing the Word Kelli.
When the...That is rightly dividing the Word Kelli.<br /><br />When the people asked Jesus,"What shall we do that we might work the works of God?" Jesus answered and said unto them, "This is the work of GOD, that you BELIEVE ON HIM WHOM HE HATH SENT." John 6:28,29.<br /><br />Acts 16:31; John 3:36,6:47; Romans 10:9-13; 1 John 5:5-13.<br /><br />I would urge anyone who attends a denomination which uses MANIPULATION or INTIMIDATION for the purposes of DOMINATION, to run away as fast as you can!<br /><br />Read the Word! Study! When God saves us he gives us LIBERTY! But many religious people want to control you. Read Galatians 2:4,5 to get an idea what people under the law try to impose on those set free by the GRACE of God.<br />RobertAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-91211830170580671662013-01-28T10:11:24.975-05:002013-01-28T10:11:24.975-05:00Yes, just as in the parable of the Sower, only ONE...Yes, just as in the parable of the Sower, only ONE of the four types of hearts (soils) receives the Lord and this ONE is a doer of the Word as the person recognizes their need of Christ and receives His Spirit.kellinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-3604690841413444402013-01-28T09:26:28.260-05:002013-01-28T09:26:28.260-05:00This means that when a person hears the Word and r...This means that when a person hears the Word and receives the LORD, this person is a doer of the Word.<br /><br />Shannon<br />Shannonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-67614325715819966582013-01-27T23:32:21.605-05:002013-01-27T23:32:21.605-05:00Want to share this as it might help us understand ...Want to share this as it might help us understand what is a doer of the Word from Pastor Bill Klein<br />Explanation of a doer of the Word:<br />James teaches that what he meant by that is the application of what the Word of God says about ourselves that we are sinners and in need of Christ.<br />James 1:22<br />But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.<br />James 1:23-25 is the<br />explanation<br /><br />James 1:23<br />For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:<br />James 1:24<br />For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.<br /><br />False teaching will always use the Word of God to motivate people to do things. <br />Jesus said to be His disciple, one must deny himself, take up his cross daily, and follow Him.<br />Isaiah 64:6 states that our best works are as filthy rags in His sight.<br /><br />A human being can only produce human things (including effort) <br />A human being cannot produce spiritual things.<br />Only the Spirit of God can produce the spiritual things of God (John 3:6)<br /><br />People can be involved in a "works" system of teaching<br />and not grace produced by the Lord.kellinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-72673819795613453882013-01-26T15:21:36.559-05:002013-01-26T15:21:36.559-05:00Shannon said:
"We don't see any example ...Shannon said:<br /><br />"We don't see any example in God's Word of anyone who is a follower of The Way running away from Truth, being offended by another of The Way who confronts their wrong beliefs,...."<br /><br />One does have to wonder, though, what was going on between the 2 women, Euodia and Syntyche, Paul mentions in Phil. 4.mrs knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-49572787924756545362013-01-26T14:24:11.253-05:002013-01-26T14:24:11.253-05:00Good points Kelli.
"To know Him is to be in ...Good points Kelli.<br /><br />"To know Him is to be in His Word".<br /><br />"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of KNOWLEDGE: but fools despise wisdom and instruction" Proverbs 1:7.<br /><br />Shannon, you posted numerous Scriptures where we are admonished to STUDY His Word. Very good!<br /><br />Jesus said, "If you love me, keep my commandments".<br /><br />RobertAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-54959535061666786842013-01-26T13:06:52.469-05:002013-01-26T13:06:52.469-05:00Oh, what grace would be on display to a dying worl...Oh, what grace would be on display to a dying world if followers of Jesus held up the OT wisdom of the "iron sharpens iron..." concept against the light of the NT wisdom of His humility described by Paul in Phil. 2.mrs knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-58438543670109105272013-01-26T12:15:23.565-05:002013-01-26T12:15:23.565-05:00The more we are in the Word, the more we will be t...The more we are in the Word, the more we will be transformed by the renewing of our minds. <br />To know Him is to be in His Word.<br />I agree there are many programs in churches in how to be a better christian, how to pray in 28 days :(, etc. and applying techniques of making God do what we would want, etc.Studying His word is changing us in how we think and lining up with Him and His will. It takes many years of studying to become a Pastor and not only learning of Him but experiencing Him through the difficult trials and testing of the faith in believers.Now if it takes the men years of studying the Word then we as women should be studying His word as well to test what is being taught in the pulpits today and is it lining up with His word. <br />Yes, we are living epistles, what we learn in His Word IS changing us and He is pruning us.kellinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-19060923016080653272013-01-26T10:23:55.453-05:002013-01-26T10:23:55.453-05:00When I read Rick's title, I thought he meant t...When I read Rick's title, I thought he meant that we must be doers of the Word, and not hearers only, who deceive themselves. That we are epistles to be read by all men. That the Lord did not reveal His Word so we could have programs and classes and sell books, but in order to redeem us and live Christ's life through us. That mentoring and discipling others in obeying the Word can be more valuable than puffing up their minds with knowledge--"to your faith add VIRTUE, and to your virtue knowledge..."<br />That is not meaning that we do not study, but study alone is dead.<br />VictoriaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-28440262542039680072013-01-26T09:42:58.441-05:002013-01-26T09:42:58.441-05:00Many times our flesh wants to be hurt and offended...Many times our flesh wants to be hurt and offended and play "the victim" because of the potential attention it will receive. The flesh always needs/desires petting. This is a battle we all face, me included, as we all are still living in this flesh. Many claiming the "gift" of mercy run to comfort the hurting ones. Sometimes the hurt may be the Holy Spirit chastening us. <br /><br />James 1:2-4 Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.<br /><br />It sometimes is best to not get in the Father's way and let His will be done. Perhaps the person will learn from the lessons He is teaching them. This is my prayer for myself always.<br /><br />Hebrews 6:1-3 (vs 3) And this we will do, if God permits.<br /><br />We don't see any example in God's Word of anyone who is a follower of The Way running away from Truth, being offended by another of The Way who confronts their wrong beliefs, as they may be doing damage to the rest of the Church by inadvertently promoting false teachings. We find that instead, when confronted with Truth, they were blessed by the correction, thankful for true edification.<br />Paul many times was not gentle, in his approach, but very firm. Galatians and the letters to the Corinthians are great examples of this.<br /><br />ShannonShannonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-1888805738829066112013-01-26T09:39:58.646-05:002013-01-26T09:39:58.646-05:00I believe in the spirit of reconciliation. This is...I believe in the spirit of reconciliation. This is at the core of what it means to be a follower of Jesus. I pray that all will be recvonciled to each other. A blog comment thread should never bring ugliness, and all of us need to be sensitive to our words.Rick Fruehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-57835278509579416202013-01-26T09:31:13.096-05:002013-01-26T09:31:13.096-05:00Cherie,
I will apologize to you on this thread as ...Cherie,<br />I will apologize to you on this thread as this is where I made my remark. Please forgive me as I am still in the flesh and will say things that are fleshy.<br />We all received and welcomed you when you started posting and sharing your difficulties. After you started posting, you began correcting others, saying in one comment in a particular post, 'Sorry if it offended anyone but you (Cherie) were going by what the Word said.'(paraphrasing)<br />Studies were shared with you that you were not interested in because of the URL. In another comment made by you, that you didn't need to know the Greek word. It was to me Cherie an attitude of, 'I know scripture and I don't need any correction unless it done by Pastor Rick.' It has been said by Pastor Rick himself that he does not know it all. It seemed to me when someone corrects you and gives you scripture, you get very defensive.We all can learn from one another.<br />Why are you commenting in and under another subject, saying that Shannon and myself are mean and that you are not going to post anymore? Instead of speaking with us directly, why post under a different subject? Are you looking for sympathy from others? This is fleshy as well Cherie. <br />Cherie,<br />My desire for you is to grow in the Grace and the knowledge of Our Lord Christ.kellinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-68586006896481163932013-01-26T00:46:12.154-05:002013-01-26T00:46:12.154-05:00Over the years I have gotten my feelings hurt as w...Over the years I have gotten my feelings hurt as well. I quickly learned not to go too deep in discussions especially when it seems the emotions are beginning to run a little high. Sometimes it takes a good night's sleep to let it go. <br />Many times when we do not have to share face to face it is easier to become somewhat unpleasant or misunderstood. And when we really do not know each other it is also easier to disregard each other's feelings.<br />Humility must be a mainstay of our attitude and speech, especially when we truly believe we are right.Rick Fruehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-68797755490108672352013-01-25T23:29:40.995-05:002013-01-25T23:29:40.995-05:00Exactly. :)Exactly. :)Rick Fruehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-10614205438172902102013-01-25T22:40:48.405-05:002013-01-25T22:40:48.405-05:00How interesting these numerous comments are. When ...How interesting these numerous comments are. When I read the sentence, I thought that Pastor Rick meant that what we study in the classroom gains true substance when we apply it in real life. I've always had a habit of interpreting a person's words in the most positive light. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-63592442032426414912013-01-25T14:03:43.488-05:002013-01-25T14:03:43.488-05:00Here may be a good time for all of us to learn som...Here may be a good time for all of us to learn something. My track record of success has been varied. But when we begin to feel some emotion in a discussion, especially when it is a negative or confrontational emotion, it is always best to step back and let it go.<br />I have yet to see anyone change their views during an exchange. Only the Spirit can do that. But dialogue is good if we keep a watch over our words. Again, if you feel something welling up inside, or if you feel someone else responds with hightened emotion, let the Spirit guide you. You may well please God by your retreat. :)Rick Fruehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-40209725143817324882013-01-25T13:50:48.816-05:002013-01-25T13:50:48.816-05:00My sentence of "Others are best to not waste ...My sentence of "Others are best to not waste precious time with" was unnecessary and uncalled for. Please accept my apology for this statement. <br /><br />These exchanges are not edifying for the Body at all. <br /><br />ShannonShannonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-38455667922140201382013-01-25T13:41:02.411-05:002013-01-25T13:41:02.411-05:00Oh my!!
Very good sister Kelli :)
Moving along.....Oh my!!<br /><br />Very good sister Kelli :)<br /><br />Moving along......<br /><br />Shannon<br /><br />Many times people have questions/comment which we should take time with them. Others are best to not waste precious time with. The Lord must open eyes as only He is capable of doing. Shannonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-38981692324049832222013-01-25T12:36:55.561-05:002013-01-25T12:36:55.561-05:00Maybe we should take this to court and let the unb...Maybe we should take this to court and let the unbelievers to decide?<br />This reminds me of The aristocrats movie where the cat goes PSSSFFFT, PSSSFFFT, PSSSFFFT. LOLkellinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-30882184185118182352013-01-25T11:58:29.108-05:002013-01-25T11:58:29.108-05:00Wow! You have really taken everything I said out o...Wow! You have really taken everything I said out of context, but that is okay, not going to argue with you. I can see there is no reasoning with you.<br /><br />All I can ask how did you get all this: <br /><br />"If I don't study the Word, how do I come to understand it?<br />Do we blindly follow a "preacher", believing he has interpreted it correctly?<br />Are we not to study the Word to learn of Him?"<br /><br />From this: " Bible study is more substantive on legs than in classrooms."<br /><br />How do you know how I am taking your post? I never said attack, I said negative. How do I know that God made Pastor Rick a Pastor? Because he said so and his Bio says so. Why should I not believe that? I use discernment not to be negative, but to know right from wrong. Yes, joy is from the Lord, where is yours? And I don't care what the false church says about love, I am talking about the Love of Jesus for the brethren. You know, meet the brethren with an Holy kiss? Just because the false church used this Biblical concept incorrectly doesn't mean it is to be ignored. <br /><br />Your posts are negative, and I fail to understand why. You said your post was an attempt to correct. What did you see in the post that needed correction? Also, you seem to have a disagreement about positions of the men of the body of Christ, why? Or is the Gospel where it speaks of the women of the body of Christ just to be done away with?<br /><br />I think you are too ready to correct. Too quick to jump in with what you think is correction and that is negative. By all means we need to use discernment, but when it is due, not just to have something to say. I have no ego, and I am the first one to beg for correction because I want to please the Lord and edify my brothers and sisters in Christ, but if we don't love one another as Christ commanded, than we have no right to correct each other. I believe the Word says correct with all meekness. <br /><br />Please show me where in the post that required you to comment as you did. If I am wrong I will absolutely ask for your forgiveness, no problem with that. And yes, your comments can take on a mean tone whether you know it or not. Or perhaps you didn't understand the post?<br /><br />You can walk around always on alert, but I will walk around with the Lord at my side. He is my hiding place, and when the roaring lion comes along, I will be able to seek covering from Him. Not that I should not be aware, but I am not going to be weary about it. How can you glory in the joy of the Lord is one is always weary. Moderation in all things. Discernment, correction, etc. with Love. <br /><br />1 Corinthians 13<br /><br />Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing (charity in this context means love)<br /><br />Philippians 4:8<br /><br />Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. <br /><br />your sister in Christ Jesus<br /><br />Cherie c.Cherie c.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-9974388260359152882013-01-25T09:40:41.220-05:002013-01-25T09:40:41.220-05:00Cherie,
You're taking my response as a person...Cherie,<br /><br />You're taking my response as a personal attack. It was not meant as such. <br />You say of Rick "God has made him a Pastor". Really? How do you know this?<br /><br />As for me seeming "to be so negative"....Not so, Cherie. Discernment is not negative but to be commended. I'm saddened by most professing believers not promoting the study of His Word, instead frown on it's importance and sustenance for the believer.<br /><br />Gal 5:22 "Joy" is fruit of His Spirit. A believer born again of His Spirit has all the Joy they could ever want/need/expect. It is His joy filling me, not joy my flesh conjures up at will.<br /><br />You say to "just love one another". This is the false church's theology.<br />You say "there is no need to always be on alert". Every book of the Bible says contrary to your statement here. There are wolves prowling around us constantly to seek and devour whom they will. I am to be on the alert always and warn my brothers/sisters of the wolf. If they choose not to accept the warning then perhaps they are not truly one of His sheep. John 10:4,5,27<br /><br />I am saddened that you take my posts as "rhetoric" and "meanness". That is your choice. I have no control over how you receive an attempt at correction. You seem to always be quick to correct but are unwilling to accept correction yourself. <br />You are quick to defend yourself but not God's Word. <br /><br />ShannonShannonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-77962893315358067142013-01-25T09:40:25.035-05:002013-01-25T09:40:25.035-05:00I would like to add that for me, the 'classroo...I would like to add that for me, the 'classroom' has been a wide variety of venues. It has been in virtually every room of whatever house I am living in, the interior of every vehicle, whether car, truck, train, airplane, at whatever job, or recreation facility. You see, I carry God's Word with me in the form of tracts, or pieces of paper that I scribble Scriptures on. It is a habit that is developed out of a hunger for His Word which is a light, a lamp to my feet (Psalm 119:105). I want to "... be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh me a reason for the hope that is in me with meekness and fear" 1 Peter 3:15.<br />RobertRobertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27942026.post-78167761811651447362013-01-25T05:54:11.525-05:002013-01-25T05:54:11.525-05:00Good one, Robert!Good one, Robert!Rick Fruehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.com